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Joey Burns from Calexico seems slightly confused when we first start talking. It is early in the morning, after all, and a complete stranger who sounds like Darth Vader (I have a brutal cold), is asking him personal questions, so I can't blame him. Luckily, ten minutes into the interview the caffeine kicks in and Calexico's front man starts talking.

Calexico's latest release, "In The Reins" is a collaborative effort with Sam Beam, the Floridian songwriter who performs as "Iron and Wine".
"Sam had 6 or so songs that were unreleased demos, and we just brought them into the studio and fleshed them out." Notorious for writing on the spot during recording, the two hooked up at Calexico's usual studio, Wave Lab, in Tucson, Arizona. "It's a great studio, a big huge room with high ceilings that you walk into and just feel like playing. It's both analogue AND digital, so you can do both."
Listening to a Calexico record is like listening to a movie soundtrack, I remark, the music slowly builds into a plot-line and lyrics appear and disappear.
"Yeah, it's chaotic", laughs Joey. "We basically come in with sketches and carve away at the song in the studio. I write the lyrics as we go. It might take longer, but it's more about the actual process this way."
I ask him about "Feast Of Wire", perhaps their most critically acclaimed record, and the vague theme that runs through the recording, of lives disrupted and relocated, the political and social ramifications of crossing the border between Mexico and California.
"There's a lot of things that inspired that. Definitely living in Arizona, and the drug trade, cultures coming together... Just making the transition from absolute poverty to a richer country and all the bureaucratic actions towards immigrants. There's this guy Luis Alberto Urrea who wrote this book "Across the Wire; Life and Hard Times on the Mexican Border" who inspired that recording a lot. Also "Crystal Frontier" by Carlos Fuentes."
I can't resist, and proceed to ask him the question journalists love to ask but musicians hate to answer. The dreaded "influences" question. But Joey starts excitedly tossing off names faster than I can write them down.
"Eric Dolphi. (Thelonious) Monk, for sure. Tom Waits, Dylan, all the usual suspects. I love Puertogese music from the 20's, and a band called the Nortec collective who blend traditional Mexican music with modern electronic music. Gram Parsons, The Soul of Black Peru, Mouse on Mars. I love "Clandestino - Esperando La Ultima" by Manu Chao, that's one of my favorite records, it has an immediate sense of social consciousness to it. And even in indie rock, there's darker subtleties in music we listen to."
Yeah, I tell him, it seems like there's a darker kernel of truth underneath all these sweeping soundtracks you create.
"Like that song "Not Even Stevie Nicks." That was penned in the studio as well. It's not even about Stevie Nicks. Maybe the protagonist was just listening to Stevie Nicks in the car. It's also about that whole myth personality she's got going."
I press him for information about future projects.
"Well, I'm sure Giant Sand and OP8 will record in the future. And John Convertino (the other core member of Calexico) and I just wrote a song for Max Cannon, the cartoonist for Red Meat, who's got a show now on Comedy Central. That's pretty exciting. I hope that the Iron And Wine series will continue. It's an interesting concept. There's challenges to collaborating, but it's a good challenge."

Calexico plays the Warfield, Wednesday, October 19th. "In The Reins" with Iron and Wine is out now.

By Tuula Ala

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